Thread: submissions from mount?

Originally Posted by tam

Kimura, what i do is set it up from mount and then move to side control to finish it. So get your arms in the right place in mount then use that as a distraction to get to side control and then finish.

Triangle, i watched this video then tried it in class. The most important part i found was lifting the head as soon as you get your leg past their arm, as this causes a distraction so they cant think about what you are doing with your leg.
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Thats sound, got my mate init at the gym today. Its easy! nice1 :thumb

just seen this link - if your fighting a big lad - a can opner still works - just pull their heads into their own chest and puuuuullllll...if they do not tap people normally at least leave something out for you.

Originally Posted by Si-K

just seen this link - if your fighting a big lad - a can opner still works - just pull their heads into their own chest and puuuuullllll...if they do not tap people normally at least leave something out for you.

normally open guard and swival of the hips allowing you to pass guard

Mate, its totally different if you are wearing Gi or something else.. You can innovate whatever you have.

difficult to get any decent subs from there if you stay in mount. I use it mainly to score points before trying to set up head/arm choke, kimura.

I use mount purely as a point scoring mechanic in comps, hit the mount get the points and flip straight back to side control, it's a much more stable position IMO and there are more attaking options from there. This is from a purely sub grappling perspective, MMA with strikes added into the mix is different.

Got to youtube and type (trainfightwin mount chain attacks) and your be well away.

Arm triangle is a great sub to do from the mount. Fairly high % especially you're rolling with other white belts.

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Whilst you might get the arm triangle from mount you generally have to move to side control to finish it. You just dont get the leverage if you stay in mount where as side control allows you to get up onto your toes and put your body weight into it.

Mount isnt the best position for submissions and the majority of those you start from mount require you to make a transition elsewhere to finish. Guillotine from mount is very difficult to make work, can opener and many other neck cranks arent allowed in some comps and tend not to work against anyone with decent flexibility, triangle again is difficult to set up and then generally requires you to roll to your back to finish, Kimura and arm-triangle needs you to move to side control and is easier to pull off if youre already in side control before going for the move rather than the other way round.

Side control is easily the more dominant position in my opinion, not just for subs but also for striking and ground control.