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Old 03-01-2010, 10:41 PM
 
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Hi there, came across your site after you posted on Cagewarriors. Interesting stuff you have to say. I must admit I have read so much conflicting info on weight loss my head is spinning. Low carb, cycle carb, refeed days blah blah etc!

Some interesting methods of burning fat ie Burn the fat feed the muscle and UD 2.0 really only seem to apply to bodybuilders that don't need as much get up and go as someone like me that needs to survive a 1.5-2 hour BJJ class with 30 mins of sparring at the end. 1200 calories does not equal energy to fight! Anyhow, according to your advice to only deduct 20% from your base level will leave me with about 1900 to eat each day. Having done some reckoning I am going to give it a go but must admit I am worried that I will put on weight even though it is gonna be clean food! The macros have ended up at about 40 30 30 by accident really.

If it helps I am 37, 5.7 and looking to drop form about 79kg to around 70. I put weight on really easy but find it hard to shift. I think I may have been snookering myself by eating too little. I was eating about 1500 last week and did drop about 1.2 but training was tough and I think my body was grinding to a halt metabolism wise.

Anyway, lets give it two weeks and see what happens.
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Old 04-01-2010, 05:02 PM
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At 1900kcals a day there is no reason you should gain fat, as long as you are keeping your metabolism elevated with BJJ training and some metabolic conditioning.

If it really is clean food (mainly vegetables, water and cutting out processed sugars) then you definatley will not have a problem, and you should see a reduction in fat.


From what you've said it does seem like you may have a slow metabolism. I'm not sure about how fast (or even how much) individual metabolisms can be altered but the best bet is to just keep hitting the gym and training hard and keeping the diet strict.

I've not long posted a great fat-burning workout here, if you'd like to give it a try.
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Cheers. Will report back.
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So far, getting heavier. 79.6 today, but very early days and will give it a good 2 week chance before assessing calories and bodyfat.

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for what its worth from a muppet beginner, could it be muscle weight rather than body fat? ive only being doing my regeime for about a week and a bit and i noticed a mild increase after a few days.. then a reduction.
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Old 06-01-2010, 07:48 PM
 
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Yeah, could be but I can vary quite a large amount day to day so not worrying about it. I really don't mind if I end up a stone heavier if my bf goes down! Will see over a longer period anyhow....
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If your varying a lot each day, sounds like your often holding a lot water. That would indicate food intolerances & probably some degree of insulin resistance. Both would need dealing with to help you. It is rarely as simple as cal equations. If it was there would be a lot less out of shape people in the world
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Just thought I would chip in here.

I have lost approx 11% bodyfat over 2 half months eating between 1700 & 1900 cals a day and lost about 4 pounds - I was aiming to stay as close to 12 stone as possible (my bodyfat is now roughly 12%), this gives me enough to train between 1 to 2 hors a day 6 days a week - I take one random day off a week and vary my calories as Thursday and Sunday I get a sleep in so eat slightly less (i.e 1700 cals) - this seems to shock my body a bit and keeps the fat loss going (and my body from getting used to the eating times and going stale) - for the record it took about 6 weeks for my body to react and I would suggest from my experience and from my mates who are personal trainers and professional cage fighters that they all say that if you start a "diet/new eating habits" give it 6 weeks - it was very weird but I saw almost no change and then around the 6 week mark bang, I lost loadsa fat over the next couple of weeks and I am now at a steady rate and think the extra 4 % I am gunning for will happen the same - just my opinion tho .
.....it seemed that my bodyfat was deep ab fat and it took a while for this inner fat to go even tho my diet and exercise got ramped up roughly 6 weeks earlier.
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Cheers and well done. I will stick at it for a while.
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Well, thought I would check in. Been sticking to the calorie level and thought I was getting somewhere. Was down to 78.4-78.8 and then weighed in today back at 80. WTF. Deep breath and keep on trying!
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